In the first episode of RIWmag visit at Italica, Alberto Salazar, Vp Sales, presented his company (www.riwmag.com/la-missione-di-riwmag-italica-1mo-episodio/).
In the second episode Rossano Bakker, Project Manager for Italy and windsurfing trees Italica in China, He explained how it is phrased the question technique leading to the design and construction of a tree (www.riwmag.com/la-missione-di-riwmag-italica-2do-episodio/).
In the third episode RIWmag has visited the Office of Rossano to understand how it develops the design phase of a tree (www.riwmag.com/riwmag-italica-3zo-episodio-il-progetto/).
In the fourth episode Rossano showed the cutting room, where preimpegnato linens are prepared after that were pulled out of the refrigerator unit (www.riwmag.com/riwmag-italica-4to-episodio-la-sala-taglio/).
In the fifth episode RIWmag tried to understand what is happening in the zone presses, What is the compaction and how they work the autoclave and extraction (www.riwmag.com/riwmag-italica-5to-episodio-dalle-presse-allestrazione/).
In the sixth episode along with Rossano RIWmag and’ was able to reconstruct and to submit to its public testing post-production windsurfing trees and measurement/verification of’ IMCS (www.riwmag.com/riwmag-italica-6to-episodio-i-test-dellalbero/)!
Mostly these video episodes are divided into two categories, commercial and technical. In the seventh episode MALL Alberto Salazar tackling the subject of the comparison between the trees produced by sailmakers and General trees’ products from brands that do not produce sails. According to data provided by Alberto Salazar same Italica provides about 60% world demand of trees from windsurfing.
At the express request of Alberto his interventions were recorded in English, to follow the dialogue transcript in Italian.
RIW: Dear readers of RIWmag, Here we are again with Alberto Salazar of Italica in this special mission at the headquarters of RIWmag Italica. At this point we will address the topic of comparison of the trees produced by sailmakers and trees products from brands that do not produce sails. (Alberto) According to your professional experience as you see this comparison?
Alberto Salazar: Thank you very much, This comparison I see him very badly to be honest. If we go back in time many years ago when there were companies like Fiberspar and Powerex, their standard trees were selling to windsurfing and all sailmakers drew their sails around those trees. That was a perfect setting and ideal, Since the tree and’ the backbone of the sail, you could be sure that every single sail was built around that tree. This was the industry standard. Today things have changed because’ every brand wants to have their trees, and everyday I see new brands of trees, new companies producing trees, and’ How to grow mushrooms after a rainy day, and then it’ very difficult to judge if the tree you wish to purchase and’ very ideal for your sail. In recent years things have changed very, Today the industry offers the possibility’ the sailmakers to have their trees, and there are also companies that offer generic trees trees at any price and by any quality: and’ really hard to choose. CIO’ What are we going to Italica and’ to work hand in hand with the sailmakers and the products managers of each customer so that they want to draw a sail, ask us a tree, We provide samples, test them, If they are happy then then draw their sails around those trees. At the end of this development cycle we are unsure at 100% This tree is really made for that sailing. And then in my opinion, Whatever your budget, and’ always better and better to buy a tree and a wing of the same brand so make sure you get the best tree and perfect for that sailing and’ designed.
RIW: Always relying on your experience, What’ the role played by the percentage of carbon?
A.S.: This and’ a difficult question, We need to move this question on another matter: What kind of sailing or windsurfing you have or what kind of experience you want to have? If you and’ devotees regattas, then we talk about camberate sails, and equipment for Formula1, in this case you should just buy the tree recommended by sails, This will be’ the only choice imaginable, Why’ If you wanted to buy that sail, you have already’ bought a table top level, a top level, a boma top level, and everything and’ to the top! And so it would be foolish and stupid saving at the purchase of the tree and impair the performance of the whole rig. But if we go beyond the appearance of the races, camberate sails will always go better with a tree 100% of carbon. But anyway you can’ have a great level of quality’ with a tree 80% of carbon, and in some cases even to 60%. Everything else under these values I’ better to buy a tree at 30% or 50% of carbon from the company that also produces the sail, rather than buy a tree that is cheap by any company for just a matter of price. At that point you have a tree that simply does not work well on the sail. So this’ my view on how to get the best performance of sailing through the tree. Regarding the other gliders, such as wave or freeride, and’ quite funny to note how at companies that produce generic trees make a label that declares the 100% of carbon, and a tree 4 meters might weigh 1.8 or 1.7 kg, While our trees 100% they weigh between carbon 1.3 and 1.4 kg. The other trees 100% have the same quality’ or possibly under our trees to 50% or 40% of carbon. I do not speak of all the other trees, There’ for sure some generic brand that builds great trees, But what I can see and’ What's’ a market trend where many brands are turning to producers of trees not like us, Maybe more’ small, in Eastern Europe or China, to get to produce a tree at the cost of a 50% and put the label of 100% of carbon. In my opinion this is not’ corrected, that's why’ You should always compare the weight of the trees and the price. The percentage of carbon in many cases means nothing. And’ Obviously if you have budget restrictions as windsurfers as unfortunately happens nowadays many of us, I think you can’ still have a quality tree’ better to 50% from the brand of your sail rather than a tree at 100% of carbon from another brand. Not’ said that a tree at 50% carbon has a quality’ bottom, can’ have a very good quality’ If it comes out of my company (Ed LAUGH!).
RIW: Trying to get even more’ the details of the speech on the percentage of carbon, following your explanation seems that the percentage of carbon is not the main factor, While the main factor and’ rather the actual weight of the tree. In your opinion and’ can buy a tree with a smaller percentage of carbon with a lower weight and’ better than a tree with a higher percentage of carbon and heavier. But then what can we say about the rest of the performance of a tree? And’ really just weight the main factor in this case?
A.S.:No, not’ only the weight! The main key factor for sure is that we work closely with our customers and sail designers in order to obtain a product with excellent performance across the range. Our focus is not’ to make happy just those few windsurfers who can afford trees per 100% of carbon, We try to provide you with a really good product on the whole range we have available: starting from the 0% of carbon 100% of carbon and’ always a development and we want to ensure our customers that the product you purchase from us work perfectly with sails of the same brand. Not’ only the weight that matters, We work also to the diameter, and in fact I'm surprised as a generic brand of trees can actually copy our diameters, our curves, and even our timing. It would be virtually impossible that they can produce generic trees fully compatible at the same time when put on the market the new collections of sails sail lofts. This would be simply impossible because’ to achieve this should have gotten from us confidential information about our work, and of course we do not provide similar information. So it’ only the weight, and’ even the diameter, the spindle of the mould, carbon stratification, the curvature. All of this information made it harder to anyone looking to sell a tree compatible.
RIW: Ok Alberto, Thank you so much for sharing your experience, and all these key elements of your daily work, We invite our readers to follow us on our website for upcoming episodes.
A.S.:Thank you, Hello.
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